Harry Potter and The Enneagram (Types 8 & 9)

The Harry Potter series is full of dynamic characters with fully developed personalities… and enneagram types! This is what makes delving into the Harry Potter world so much fun! Today, we are going to spend some time talking specifically about Harry Potter and the enneagram types 8 & 9!

Enneagram Type 8: Delores Umbridge

The key thing to know about eights, is that they are motivated by not wanting to be controlled. This key motivation pushes them to in turn control others, if they are in a place of power and control, no one can have power and control over them.

We see this hunger for power in the character of Delores Umbridge. She deeply fears showing weakness, wearing armor of pink and shields of pretensive sweetness. Unlike a type 3, who could pull off a clever façade, Umbridge fools no one with her “air of fake likeability.” Because we know their is no authenticity of goodness behind her actions, everything about her becomes sour.

Umbridge is an example of an enneagram type eight that has gone way below the level of average to an unhealthy state. She is full of anger, that overflows into cruelty. The more power she gains, the more evil she becomes. This power hungry appetite cannot be filled. she becomes like an evil dictator, completely closed off to all emotions and feelings, that would otherwise steer here in a healthy direction, she moves forward to rule demanding that she is on top.

In the un-healthy stage of a type eight, we see Umbridge as reckless, ruthless, suspicious, and seeking revenge. She demands that her way is the only way, and that all must follow. Her attempt to not be controlled, however, doesn’t end up working out for her. As we know, ignoring our personal health and growth will only get us in a deeper pit.

Enneagram Type 8 Professor Alastor (Mad-Eye) Moody

Now we can compare degrees of health within the same enneagram type. Professor Alastor Moody is also an enneagram type eight, yet he is in an average, and sometimes healthy state within his type. He is confrontational, and bold, but not cruel. Mad-Eye is self-sufficient, and a dualistic thinker, but he also know how to make a group inspired to follow him.

Eights make natural leaders because they don’t mind taking charge and being in control. The difference here is earned respect (For Moody) and demanding obedience out of fear (from Umbridge). Mad-Eye shows his great leadership as he guides the Order of the Phoenix through many a turbulent time, and as an Auror he is respected, looked up to, and even awed.

He understands the power of vulnerability, and has learned to put his guard down around those he trusts. Though he often dominates his environment, he also looks out for those who need his help. Most of the time he speaks his mind boldly, but at times he restrains himself, when he sees the outcome will be better if he holds back.

Enneagram Type 9: Harry Potter

Firstly, I don’t think any other type on the enneagram could have survived living with the Dursleys! And Harry’s humanity is always shining through in effort to be a good person, to keep things peaceful, and amicable. Time and time again, it is Harry who offers the olive branch to these people who treat him so unkindly.

Secondly, a key component of enneagram type nine is their tendency to merge with others. They sort of go along with whatever the person they are with wants to do. Harry does this frequently. Hermione is often the one with all the ideas, and he just sort of agrees, trusting that she is both intelligent, and faithful. He gets placed in many scenarios, that other numbers would simply back out of, say no to, or refuse to comply.

Harry is also, just a really likeable kid. Nines are known to be the easiest number to be around. They don’t bring their own baggage, never bring up conflict, and usually just support you. Harry really wants the best for his friends, and for the world. He isn’t too concerned with his own desires, or pursuing lofty dreams.

Furthermore, One of the great things about the series taking place over so many years, is that we get to see Harry really grow up as a character. In the beginning, he is really fighting, as all nines do, the idea that his presence matters. He doesn’t connect with being “the chosen one… the boy who lived.” And he never likes the idea of being famous. As the series progresses, we see him blossom into the kind of leader others want to follow.

Harry begins to see that he has a lot offer others, and becomes a great teacher to those who want to learn true defense against the dark arts. He faces many conflicts that previously he may have tried to avoid. Most importantly he connects with himself authentically, and faces the ultimate fear, death.

Enneagram Type 9: Professor Dumbledore

Dumbledore is a patient, level-headed leader, and seeks world peace for all. His mediation skills are a big part of what makes him a great type nine leader. He handles many problems with wisdom, calm, and sometimes a little humor that reflect his deep type nine ways.

He is a withdrawn type, which makes him feel somewhat distant at times. Dumbledore uses his reflections about the past (where he is anchored due to his stance) to inform him about present decisions. You can literally see the weight lifted, when he releases a memory into the pensieve. Allowing a heavy thought to be taken away, gives energy back.

As a body/ gut type, Dumbledore is very intuitive. He knows things going on all around him just by instinct. In a single room, he can detect the most minute feelings and actions. This triad also means, his anger is just under the surface. We rarely see it, and when we do, he didn’t even know it was coming. And he’d probably tell you that he doesn’t get angry.

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Beauty and the Beast and the Enneagram

Beauty and the Beast has always been my favorite fairy tale story. A bookish girl who wants more out of life has to make a big moral decision, including sacrifice, vulnerability, and real transformation. The drama and the stakes are high. Which brings me to Beauty and the Beast, and the enneagram!

The drama and transformation in this story lends us ample material to work with when considering the enneagram. I love seeing a character grow throughout a story. It can be a great reflection tool as well for our own growth patterns and archs.

Beauty and The Beast & The Enneagram

The Beast

Enneagram Type 8

“you must control your temper

We meet him first as an unhealthy 8 who speaks before thinking, acts before considering consequences, and makes rash judgments. His anger is right on the surface for all to see.

Then when Belle meets him, he is deeply depressed, and in his state of stress as a guarded type 5. He is withdrawn, guarded and fearful of showing any weakness. Let’s take a moment to understand this major move for the Beast.

Type 8 can take on quite a lot of stress. These are powerful, confident characters. They hold their own, and protect themselves from getting hurt. It is the years of “living cursed,” that drives the beast deep into his stress mode. He isolates himself, becomes private and discouraged. The possibility of a future is nearly hopeless, which is devastating for a future oriented type 8.

The night Belle arrives, things begin to change. He is forced to come out of his seclusion and back up into his core- type 8 self. When she runs away, he goes after her. He protects her and ends up saving her life. This is type eight at it’s best.

Type Eight’s Connection to Type 2

Throughout the story we see the beast developing both the high side of 8 and connection to his strength number- type two. Belle has gained his trust, so he is willing to now be vulnerable with her and show her his softer side. What he fears most as an 8, is betrayal. She helps him overcome this fear by proving to be faithful and trustworthy, honest and compassionate.

What a great example of the growth arch of a character. We really get to see it all with the beast because it is truly a story about transformation.

By the end, he is functioning on the high side of eight and two. The clear leader, yet sensitive to the needs of others. When he literally transforms into the Prince version on himself, there is evident warmth (from type the two side) and a sense of leadership over his castle. It is clear that his employees want what is best for him and respect him.

Belle

Enneagram Type 5

We see right away that Belle does not fit the mold for a typical woman in society. She is intellectual, independent, and doesn’t want to marry, “just to marry.” This alone makes her complicated. She is curious, and capable, breaking expectations once again. In these ways, she represents enneagram type five very classically.

Fives love nothing more than to figure things out for themselves. They are deeply independent, and don’t really need anyone. Resourcefulness is one of their super-powers. We see all of this in Belle.

On the enneagram, type 5 is connected to type seven. This connection may be where Belle gets her longing for adventure and desires beyond the simple life in her quiet village.

We see her love of books and seeking time alone from the beginning. She is always seeking more knowledge, and a way to escape through the stories she reads. A five’s key motivation is gaining knowledge and being capable, which she shows very clearly.

Type Five’s Connection to Eight

When Belle’s Father’s horse, Phillipe, shows up rider-less, she springs into action. She knows she is capable and that she alone must find her father. Her confidence is that of a fives: grounded and logical. She is dependable and does what “should” be done.

Consequently, her exchange in her father’s place as prisoner is not as “martyr-like” as it may seem. It is the logical thing that should be done. Her access to type eight as her strength number allows her to stand up to the Beast, and also protect the one person in her life that she loves.

We see the eight in her rise up on numerous occasions, meeting the challenge of the Beast. This really works beautifully for the dynamics of the eight and five couple. They respect each other, stand up for each other, and build enough trust to allow vulnerability where true growth happens.

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Enneagram Type 8 and Spiritual Practices

The best thing about spiritual practices, is that they add meaning to our lives. When practiced regularly, and with intention, they can really change your life. Throughout this series, we have been combining this idea with the enneagram. Using your specific enneagram type with all of it’s strengths and weaknesses, there is a practice that makes the most sense for you. Let’s talk about enneagram type 8 and spiritual practices.

First off, type eights are great at following a plan, getting things done, and moving forward. They are future thinkers, but more than that, they are “do-ers.” An eight could easily take on a spiritual practice in addition to all the other things they do, and “get it done.”

A spiritual practice is more than just something on a to do list. It is important for eights, just like the other numbers in the aggressive stance, to slow down. Seek to be grounded in the present. Getting things done efficiently is a great quality. However, the point of a spiritual practice is to grow, to add meaning to your life, and to feel purpose through that practice.

It doesn’t have to be efficient, or even “purposeful” in the way that you are “getting one more thing done.”

Simply being… is okay sometimes.

Spiritual Practices for Eights

Enneagram Type 8 and Spiritual Practices

Appointed Accountability

Enneagram type eight’s biggest struggle is vulnerability. They are used to being the strongest person in the room, the one who defends others. Showing their own weakness is something eights avoid at all costs. However, the only way to grow is to allow vulnerability.

The best way forward for eights, is to choose someone they respect and trust to be this person for them. Meet regularly with this person and share the deep things that you normally keep hidden. This practice will open you up in ways you never thought possible.

Ideas to achieve this:

-Meet up for coffee with you appointed accountability person every week

-Talk about feelings

-Review the things in your life that you struggle with

-Be honest about what has recently hurt you

-Revisit similar topics and questions every week

-Notice your progress

Journaling

If you don’t have someone you feel comfortable asking to be your accountability person, another great option is to journal. A journal can be a great tool to practice writing down your feelings, expressing things that happen throughout your week that cause you pain or hurt.

Notice every time you feel a big, intense feeling and write it down in your journal. After a few weeks, you will get faster at noticing those big feelings. You can also look back through your journal and track your progress.

Regular Volunteering

Type eight shares a line with type two, and moves to type two in strength and comfort. The high side of two is not only friendly, but a fantastic volunteer for helping in any situation. Practicing qualities of the high side of any number’s strength number, will help them grow.

For type eight, regular volunteering is a great way to get in touch with that high side of type two. It brings out their compassion and softer side we know is in there!

Once a month, is a great start to begin adding in volunteer work. This can be done in many capacities from your next door neighbor, to a homeless shelter in your city. The point is to get out of your comfort zone a bit and get creative.

Who needs helps in your community? Is there a group you could join or lead to help others? Eights make great natural leaders; a perfect challenge for type eights is to start their own out reach idea.

I hope you find these ideas helpful!

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What are You chasing: Types 7, 8, and 9

In this series, we have been looking into each enneagram type and their patterns, motivations, and ultimately their chase that keeps them stuck. We all chase after what we think will give us love, acceptance, belonging, or what we think we need. Knowing your enneagram type will help you see the chase you are stuck in, and with practice derail the chase. Let’s look at types 7, 8, and 9 this week.

Enneagram Type 7

What Are You Chasing? Types 7, 8, and 9

Type seven is chasing satisfaction and enjoyment. How can I have the most fun? At the same time, sevens are also avoiding pain and repress feelings. Their chase takes them from place to place, always seeking an experience of fulfillment while not going deep enough to feel uncomfortable or vulnerable.

Keeping things light and fun, means sevens have a lot of friends. They also have more experiences and stories than any other number, but this chase can rob type sevens of the depth they don’t even know they desire. While bouncing around from this fun thing to the next, they miss connecting deeply. They’ve moved on before allowing themselves to be seen.

These satisfaction seekers will never truly be satisfied if they stay on this chase. They are quick to re-frame things positively, which can be a great skill. However, sevens do this so quickly and seamlessly, it can feel like they are experiencing an alternate reality. Instead of feeling the pain of disappointment or heartbreak, they want to brush those feelings away seeing only a good side. But we need to disappointments to help us grow and heartbreak forms strength.

Tools to derail the chase for type 7

Be here now.

Sevens often thrive on anticipating future events so much so, that they forget to be in the present. Being in the moment will take conscious effort and practice for sevens, but will pay off.

Repeating the words “be here now,” as a sort of mantra, can help ground sevens to the moment they are in. When distractions come and ideas that are more exciting that what is going on in the present, repeat the mantra. It will mean so much to the people you are with to have your full attention and awareness.

This simple shift is a powerful tool in derailing your chase and bringing more meaning and satisfaction back to your life.

Develop a consistent creative outlet

Enneagram type seven probably has the biggest imagination of all the types. This means they need places they can use this massive idea factory stored in their brains. Using their creativity regularly helps sevens feel what they cannot express, stay grounded, and adds the satisfaction to life that they crave.

It will look different for each individual, of course. Some sevens may love music and play many instruments, others might be very artistic and enjoy drawing, painting and creating. The key here is to define a time and place for this creativity to come alive, and keep to it.

Maybe its every Sunday night in the garage… a set aside time and place for freedom (a type seven’s favorite word) and imagination to run wild.

Let yourself be seen

This might be the most challenging for type seven, who on the outside wants others to think of them as easy going and fun loving. But what about their deeper side? Beneath all that silly, happy-party person is a deep thinker. Someone with great and fantastical ideas, and someone afraid to get hurt.

You don’t have to let everyone see your deeper side, but choose one or two close friends who you can share everything with. They will help you develop your repressed feeling center by being a safe place for you to express yourself. This is vital for derailing your chase, and worth every painful minute of practice.

Enneagram Type 8

What are you chasing enneagram types

Type eight is chasing justice and independence. Eights are big power players. But more than wanting control, they just don’t want to be controlled. They highly value their independence, as well as protecting the people they love. Their chase becomes dangerous when they are willing to hurt others to remain in charge of their own destiny.

An eight’s boldness can allow them to be vengeful, self-centered, and intensely domineering. They see the world in black and white, right and wrong and will go after anyone challenging them. Under this warrior of a personality, lies a softer side, hidden and protected from possible betrayal (an eights biggest fear).

Tools to Derail the Chase for Type 8

Put the Defenses Down

Since eights have a stance of deflecting and being on the defense, it is hard to break through. Many times, all that is needed is a deep breath and a reality check. Some questions to ask yourself:

What do I know for sure?

Is it possible I am in the wrong?

Have my words or actions been hurtful?

Eights think and act so quickly that they can miss what is happening in the moment. Often times, they have moved on without taking time for valuable reflection. A simple pause and check in time, can be very helpful for type eight.

Putting the defenses down will allow for awareness and growth. New perspective can be enlightening for eights who are used to seeing things only one way.

Let Others In

Eights fear being betrayed, and rarely take the risk of deep relationship. It is important for eights to have one or two people with whom they can show their deepest parts. Being vulnerable with these few people will allow that softness to develop and stop the chase of protection in its tracks.

Choose a time once a week to share personal things with your person. This gives you accountability to stick to this development that is needed to derail your chase. Maybe you meet for coffee and answer these questions:

What has made me feel out of control this week?

What has made me feel loved?

Was there a moment when I noticed myself saying or doing something that unintentionally hurt someone this week?

These sample questions are a good place to start to give you something tangible to work with. Bringing up feelings and being aware of the way your dominance affects others are huge steps of growth. This is the beginning, and the person you choose to come along on the journey with you wants to support you and walk along side you as you grow.

Enneagram Type 9

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Nines are chasing peace. This peace they seek is both inner peace and outer peace. Their chase often looks like avoiding conflict in an effort to protect their peace, or find it.

Like the other types, this seems like a good goal on the surface. Who couldn’t use more peace? But the danger of the type nine’s chase is the constant need for no conflict. They will avoid doing things, and spending time with people altogether to keep conflict at bay and remain in peace.

Their chase can also look like not engaging in life. Hard conversations and tasks will get put off. They’ll do that later. Involving themselves might jeopardize the peace status… so its better just to let things go.

Nines also shut down how they really feel in honor of perceived peace. They become people pleasers, agreeing to do whatever is asked of them. They want to please who they are with and go along with the plan, but may have no intention of actually doing it.

Tools to Derail the Chase for Type 9

The Conflict Bridge

I like this word picture of thinking of conflict like a bridge for nines. The bridge is the place where the hard thing has to happen, but once you cross it there is beauty on the other side. Nines tend to want to stay on the safe side for as long as possible, but in this case… the grass really can be greener on the other side.

Embracing conflict may be the hardest thing you ever do. Remind yourself that you can do it. You can cross that bridge, and you will be happy you did. Think of what beauty lies on the other side, that should be your focus. All you have to do is walk over there.

When this is realized, big doors begin to open for type nine. It won’t be easy, but positive self-talk can keep nines moving in the right direction. Remind yourself that you have handled conflict before, and that you can do it again. The peace you want is on the other side of the bridge.

What do you want?

Nines often get lost merging with those around them and don’t take the time and energy to figure out what they actually want. Getting out of this cycle is a tough one, but it begins by awareness.

Notice when you are agreeing because its easier to merge than voice your opinion. Ask yourself, what do I want? What is my opinion? This practice will help you get a handle on how much you follow the wants and desires of others, and give you a starting place to find your own voice.

The next step, is saying how you feel and stating what you believe. Sometimes that will mean saying, no. Other times that will mean you have to cross that bridge of conflict to be heard and to resolve a differing opinion. You are worth it. What you have to say matters and your beliefs deserve to be heard.

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Enneagram Type 8 and Fictional Characters

Enneagram type eights are known for their natural leadership qualities and abilities to get things done without emotions getting in the way. To give you a better idea of what that might look like, let’s explore enneagram type 8 and fictional characters.

Mad-Eye Moody (From the Harry Potter Series)

First of all, are we talking Mad-eye Moody when we first meet him as Barty Crouch Jr., or the real Mad- eye Moody? For typing sake, let’s focus on the real Mad-eye Moody and leave Barty out of it.

A true type eight doesn’t care what others think of them and has a strong pull for justice. Mad-eye is a famous Auror, which in the magical world is sort of like being an FBI agent for the good guys. Mad-Eye has been wounded many times in his service to the common good, which accounts for his menacing appearance.

His limp and his scars don’t slow him down, nor does he care what others think of him. In the true eight nature, Mad-eye stays on track, focused on the goal without worrying how he looks or how anyone feels. He gets things done efficiently, and leads in a commanding way that demands respect.

Along with his leadership skills are his values to protect the innocent, the underdog, and those he loves, or is loyal to. Mad-Eye won’t put up with bullies, big or small. He even defends those being bullied. We see that Mad-eye fights to the death for what he believes in, protecting Harry and the cause.

Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games)

Katniss becomes the leader of her family after her father dies. This is typical of the type eight. When no one is taking charge, an eight will rise up and do what needs to be done. She provides food for the family by hunting, and creates a seemingly “safe” space for her sister to feel taken care of.

Furthermore, Katniss shines in a real type eight hero moment, when she volunteers to fight to the death in place of her sister. This moment comes from her type eight gut reaction to protect a dear loved one. There is no way she can let her little sister enter the games where she will most likely die.

Her rising leadership throughout the hunger games books is never about the spotlight, but always about justice. Katniss doesn’t care what she is supposed to do, but breaks the rules for what is right ,or often to protect others.

On the outside she appears cold and unemotional, but we know that underneath her hard type eight shell there is a softer side. Eights protect this above all else. They never want to be seen as weak or vulnerable. Throughout the series, Katniss learns that the only way to true connection is through vulnerability.

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Love Letters to the Enneagram Types 8 and 9

Love Letters to the Enneagram Types 8 and 9

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Behind the Scenes of Enneagram Type 8

Enneagram type eight is known for their boldness, powerful presence, and “get it done,” attitude. But there is much more to these “challengers,” as they are sometimes called. Let’s go behind the scenes of enneagram type 8 to find out what they are really all about.

The Aggressive Stance

It’s no surprise that the type eight is in the aggressive stance. They are outwardly aggressive and express their thoughts and opinions openly. This type is not afraid of a fight, in fact they crave the intimacy and intensity a conflict can create.

The aggressive stance also reveals the dominant and repressed intelligence centers of type eight. Because they are in the aggressive stance, eights are doing dominant, and feelings repressed. The thinking center falls in-between, supporting their doing center.

Since the doing center is dominant for eights, this means they act first without considering feelings or thinking about what repercussions their actions may cause. Thinking happens after the action has been done. Feelings are last for type eight.

Being feelings repressed, makes it hardest for type eights to be empathetic. They say what they think, do what they want, and really don’t care about your feelings. They also don’t care what other people think about them, and don’t waste time worrying about feelings in general.

Types in the aggressive stance are also future focused. For type eight, this looks like pushing their goals and powering through obstacles. This forward focus also enhances their need to repress feelings and protect themselves from vulnerability (their worst fear).

Behind the Scenes of Enneagram Type 8

The Anger Triad

Eights are in the anger triad, also known as the “gut triad,” meaning they react quickly and with gut instincts. They know what they want, and usually the most efficient way to get it. Because they bypass feelings, they can be cutthroat, and offensive without meaning to be.

Eights are close to their anger. They express it outwardly and don’t hold back. The other numbers in this triad express anger in a less obvious ways. The type eight lives up to its name as “The challenger,” and definitely walks boldly into every situation.

This kind of confidence and honesty makes the type eight intimidating to most. They are also natural leaders and known for protecting the underdog, as well as those they love. Type eights at their best use their domineering personality for good, helping others and impacting the world.

Behind the Scenes of Enneagram Type 8

Why we love type 8

No one will tell you the truth like an eight. Though their honesty may hurt at times, you can be confident in always knowing where you stand with them. Their communication style is direct, succinct, and full of clarity and conviction.

When they are in your corner, you can’t lose. It is like having a superhero stand behind you and lift you up! They will fight for you, stand up for you, sometimes even fight the battles in your honor if need be. They have a sweet nurturing side for those they love, and the protection of a Mama bear.

The intensity of type eight is admirable. They work tirelessly for what they need to in a practical and passionate way. Eights have a willingness to act and do hard things without giving up.

When the timing is right, eights even know how to loosen up and have a little fun. We love seeing this side of them!

What Does Type Eight Need From Us?

Eights respect people that standup for themselves and radiate confidence. They also appreciate clear, concise communication. Since they don’t beat around the bush, they don’t want you to either. They also don’t want to waste time guessing, or playing games.

Eights don’t care for flattery, but desire honest appreciation of the many things they do. Acknowledge the contributions they make and the hard work they do to make your life better.

Become a safe, trustworthy space for your type eight to feel supported in. Typically eights build walls of protection around anything that feels like vulnerability and need a comfortable place to put some of that. They do have a hidden softer side.

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